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Thread Starter: Rehmat   Started: 09-30-2009 11:48 AM   Replies: 4
  30 Sep 2009, 11:48 AM
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Haven’t we been there before!

Let’s talk – Let’s negotiate

We can have a conference, a summit, a debate

A multifaith dialogue to eliminate hate

We’ll shake hands and smile

And make the six o’ clock news

For supporting the peace process

Between Arab and Jews

And we will only talk

But not about ethnic cleansing

Forget Dier Yassin

Don’t speak about apartheid – Or the destruction of Jenin

Be blind to the pains in Gazzah

The hunger, the disease, the rubbles, the fire

DON’T MENTION THE RIGHTS OF REFUGEES – When we talk…. by Samah Sabawi

On September 22, 2009 – World witnessed USrael’s latest charade. I mean the President Barack Hussein Obama’s “three-way meeting” with Zionist entity’s radical Jewish prime minister Benjamin Netanyanhu and the Fatah’s president Mahmoud Abbas, whose mandate as ‘President of PA’ had expired in January 2009. The absence of Palestinians’ democratically elected government of Hamas – said volumes of how much Obama would be different from the previous occupants of the White House in curing the Zionist cancer in the Middle East.

The ‘handshake’ photo without Bibi’s commitment to Jewish settlement freeze – provided victory to the fanatic Israeli leaders to celebrate after listening to Obama’s speech next day at the United Nations General Assembly, which most probably was written by Bibi’s speech-writer. While Obama blamed Islamic Iran for most of the world’s problems – it paid only lip service to Palestinians under Jewish occupation. Could it be me alone who smells skunk in his statement: “The time has come to relaunch negotiations without pre-conditions that address the permanent status issues: security for Israelis and Palestinians; borders, refugees and Jerusalem. the goal is clear: two states living side by side in peace and security; a Jewish State of Israel, with true security for all Israelis; and a viable, independent Palestinian state with contiguous territory that ends the occupation that began in 1967, and realizes the potential of Palestinian people….”

Now the above statement raises many questions and seems contradictory to Obama’s earlier pro-Israeli policy statements. For example, how could Israel, now, become a “Jewish State of Israel” when it’s not even recognized as such by the UNSC? The word “Jewish” was crossed out by US President Harry Truman on May 14, 1948. At Annapolis Conference, Bush, too, declared that Israel has to be a “Jewish State” - which was immediately rejected by PLO negotiator, Saeb Erekat – because the 1.5 million non-Jewish Arabs living within Israel not only contradicted the term – but by calling the occupation as a “Jewish State” – Bush signalled that he favored the Israeli position in future negotiations on the right of return for Palestinian refugees.

Though, Obama became the first US president to acknowledge the root cause of Muslims’ hatred towards the US and the violence in the Middle East – but he still insists that the victims of European colonization should offer more to Israel. But the Palestinians have nothing to offer. Seventyeight percent of their land is already occupied by the Zionist regime. Obama’s envoy, George Mitchel, though has the Israel Lobby’s blessings and has met both Bibi and Abbas several times but without any flexibility in the Israeli stand.

President Obama wants Palestinians to abandon military resistance and use non-violent means to settle their disputes with Israel. Does he believe that the Western Jews occupied Palestine through non-violent protests?

President Obama wants an “independent Palestinian state with contiguous territory that ends the occupation that began in 1967, and realizes the potential of Palestinian people.” However, Bibi\’s vision of the proposed Palestinian State is “a demilitarized State with Israel controlling its borders and airspace”. One dare to ask: Would Obama accept Russia controlling the borders and airspace of his country?

Both Netyanahu and his Zionazi sidekick, Avigdor Lieberman, are least interested in words like dialogues, peace process, Jewish settlements, land for peace, etc. YES, they do want to talk – but not about the land Jews stole from native Muslims and Christians or their Zionazi behaviour towards their victims – but the non-existent “Iranian nuclear threat” to the region. According to the Zionist regime and its western puppet – the only way to establish peace and security in the Middle East is to bomb Islamic Iran back to 10th century, as they did to Iraq and Afghanistan on earlier Israeli bidding.

Gilad Atzmon in his comments on Bibi’s speech at the UN wrote:

“Israeli love their Shoa (Holocaust), for the Shoa is no doubt is their best selling Hasbara (propaganda) product. It somehow allows them to kill en masse and to do it indistinguishably while insisting that it is they who happen to be the victims.”

Answering Netanyahu’s assertion that “the greatest threat facing the world today is the marriage between religious fanaticism and the weapon of mass destruction (meaning Islamic Iran),” – Gilad Atzmon responded: “In fact, no one can describe the danger posed by the Jewish state and Zionism any better. Israel is indeed a deadly marriage between Old Testament gross genocidal barbarism, Zionist fanaticism and a huge arsenal of WMDs,chemical, biological and nuclear that has already been partially put into action….”

Watch a video of the "Three-way" meeting at the link below:

http://rehmat1.wordpress.com/2009/09/30/haven%e2%80%99t-we-been-there-before/


  
  30 Sep 2009, 1:05 PM
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Re: Haven’t we been there before!
Really?  Answer me this,  how many Palestinians have been killed in 60 years of war? 

Now,  how many Africans have been killed at the hands of Muslims?  You want to compare.. start with that one!



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  01 Oct 2009, 1:40 PM
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Re: Haven’t we been there before!

The world is not Black & White as you discribe it

Sure Israel has alot to answer for , but dont we aswell

Why didnt you write among your list

Forget the Hebron massacre of the jews in 1929 before Israel was even established

Forget Tha Maalot school massacre

Forget the many suicide bombs targeting and killing innocent civivlians

Forget the Munich olypmics massacre

Forget the thousands of Kasam rockets fired into Israel , before Israel retaliated

Etc etc etc

There is no point looking back the whole time, pay attention to the present, make a brighter future for all the children in the middle east

www.arabsforisrael.com

 


  
  09 Oct 2009, 2:59 AM
Rehmat is not online. Last active: 10/31/2009 3:49:35 AM Rehmat

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Re: Haven’t we been there before!
 allan wrote:
Really?  Answer me this,  how many Palestinians have been killed in 60 years of war? 

Let me give you this year record of Jewish slaughter of Palestinian Muslims and Christians. More than 1400 killed alone in Gaza during Dec.-Jan. invasion - with 40% children.

Now,  how many Africans have been killed at the hands of Muslims?  You want to compare.. start with that one!

Muslim did not kill a single African Jew during the last 60 years. Do you have any non-Zionist source to prove me wrong?

  
  09 Oct 2009, 9:16 AM
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Re: Haven’t we been there before!
And out of the 1400,  how many were members of Hamas?  Or used as Human Shields by Hamas?  Out of the 1400,  how many lived in Gaza as compared to the west bank (where there is no trouble) 

As for saying about African Jews,  I said Africans,  so please answer the question,  how many Africans have been killed by Muslims?  I'll settle for the figures just from Darfur and Southern Sudan.. If you have the guts to post how many Africans have been killed by Muslims.
Now find a figure on that and lets compare between the two "genocides" you keep claiming. 






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