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Thread Starter: iamisrael   Started: 09-17-2009 10:12 PM   Replies: 13
  17 Sep 2009, 10:12 PM
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i am israel short political documentary

http://www.iamisrael.com

a short political documentary


  
  18 Sep 2009, 10:55 AM
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Re: i am israel short political documentary

I live in Israel

I am an Arab

I am happy to live in Israel

I am proud of my Palestinian heraitge and my Israeli nationality

Israel is far from perfect, but far better and f***r than any other arab country

Education, welfare, equaility of ***es, freedom of the press...Maybe in a hundred years

some arab countries will reach Israels level

www.arabforisrael.com

 

 

 


  
  18 Sep 2009, 11:28 AM
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Re: i am israel short political documentary

Also , the film was far from being true

We must remember , muslim and christian that Jerusalem was the capital of the jews in the kingdom of David in the year 1000 BC , thats a thousand years more or less before christ and approx 1600 years before mohammed  was even born.....

The soloution..not just in Israel\Palestine, but maybe Lebanon as well is, Find away to except your brother, and live in peace ,respect  each other

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  06 Nov 2009, 6:34 PM
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I am Arab

I am American

I am Muslim

And, I don't agree with what israel is doing to the Palestinians. If you live peacefully in "israel", then there are thousands of Palestinians living in Gaza that are suffering from the ocupation and oppression. Just because you are an "Arab israeli" and even a Palestinian living in israel nicely, it doesn't mean that israel is an angel and is treating other Palestinians that live in Gaza with justice.
You can't deny the fact that israel has done war crimes since it was first created. It was created by an ethnic cleansing and that's illegal. Read The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine, written by Illane Pappe, an israeli against israel's actions.

And, you can't deny the fact that  israel lead a massacre in Gaza last december and she murdered hundreds of people and injured more than 5000.
If you are REALLY an Arab israeli living in israel, then you shouldn't be selfish and only think for yourself. Just because you are not suffering from what israel is doing, it doesn't mean that all the Palestinians are feeling the same way you do.

And here are the facts about the Gaza Massacre:

Palestinian victims, according to Gaza medics:
-- 1,205 killed, including:
-- 410 children (under 16)
-- 108 women
-- 113 elderly men
-- 14 medics
-- 4 journalists

-- 5,300 wounded

Israeli victims, according to medics:

-- 13 killed in combat and rocket attacks, including:
-- 10 soldiers (nine in combat, one in rocket attack)
-- three civilians in rocket attacks
-- dozens wounded

-- 2,500 targets hit by Israeli air force and navy inside Gaza, including:

-- four UN-run schools
-- a compound of the UN agency for Palestinian refugees
-- two media buildings
-- 16 medical centres
-- 16 ambulances

-- 778 rockets and mortars fired by Gaza militants into Israel, with most of the projectiles that landed inside the Jewish state hitting houses, but also hitting several schools and a kindergarten.

Damage in Gaza: (figures from Palestinian statistics bureau)

-- 475.9 million dollars of damage to infrastructure
-- 500 million dollars in estimated clean-up costs
-- 4,000 residential buildings destroyed
-- 16,000 residential buildings damaged
-- 1,500 commercial facilities damaged, including factories, shops, metal
workshops
-- 51 government buildings destroyed, including ministries and police
-- 18 schools and other education buildings
-- 20 mosques destroyed
-- 50 kilometres of roads destroyed.

AFP reported from Jerusalem.

You can't ignore that. Know your history and

END THE ISRAELI OCCUPATION

FREE PALESTINE


  
  08 Nov 2009, 1:48 PM
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Re: i am israel short political documentary

Israel is far from perfect

But a thousand time more moral than any other moslem country

You like to state "Facts" but you failed to mention that Hamas cowardly hid behind it's citizens , therefore the civilain casualties - Hizbolla tactics...

Regarding the Israeli army beaviour please see this short movie

 http://www.unwatch.org/site/apps/nlnet/content2.aspx?c=bdKKISNqEmG&b=1313923&ct=7536409

Also as an American are you aware that your own country killed more moslems in the first two years of the Iraqi and Afgahnistan occupation than in the whole middle east conflict

 


  
  09 Nov 2009, 12:07 AM
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Re: i am israel short political documentary
hello jihano, besides the debate on whom is less the aggressor.

what solutions do you present for resolving the middle east peace conflict? specifically,

a definitive plan of action. from; either the usa, israel, other? can be collective.

thanks for the heads up on the ethnic cleansing of pal. {book} i will check it out.


  
  09 Nov 2009, 2:59 AM
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hey Ricardo

I believe that the Jews and the Palestinians should live in peace again as they were before 1948. One state solution is great but israel is fooling others with the word of "peace"
What kind of peace is it when she murders hundred of innocent civilians?
It seems like israel will never offer the real peace.
USA needs to stop funding help to israel. And now, more and more people are becoming  aware of the history of how israel was created and what she does currently in Palestine and of course the crimes she is hiding and not letting the media spread the word.
Check out the books written by Norman G. Finkelstein. They are really good Smile
 Check out his link: http://www.normanfinkelstein.com/


  
  09 Nov 2009, 3:19 AM
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You keep repeating the same thing because you got nothing to say about it.
Yes okay, hamas is a terrorist organization, and they killed 13 israelis. I am sorry, but that number CANNOT be compared to 1000. You are comparing two digits to 4 digits.
Of course, it's horrible. Innocent people are dying in both sides, not the ones responsible  for this war. But if you see how justice is implied to this, that number has to be equal. It's a war. You can't kill hundreds of Palestinians and dozens of israelis. What kind of justice is that? What makes sense needs to be followed. And I am not saying yeah, both sides should experience death and sadness, but things should be fair.
You guys are fighting a place without an army when you have an army base and planes to bomb people's houses and you are complaining about a small, bad organization that throws really small bombs compared to what you guys throw on Palestinians.
Probably your govenmental laws are stated under killing 10 Palestinians to 0 israelis and killing 1000 Palestinians to 10 israelis. Fair enough for israel. And that's exactly what happend in the Gaza massacre.

Well, at least I am an American and I say, yes America is funding israel help which is not good and I say, yes, they should not kill innocent people as well in Afghanistan and Iraq. At least I am not supporting America for what she does, not like you who supports the terrorist actions of israel. I support America for a lot of good things, at least she is doing good things and bad things, not like israel who's doing bad and horrible things only.
And  America is not as bad is israel. Don't ever compare America to israel. A huge difference.

END THE ISRAELI OCCUPATION
FREE PALESTINE


  
  09 Nov 2009, 6:13 AM
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good point. but i am not; for not funding israel. but neutralizing/ ending commerce,
relationships. that influence our govt. policy toward; objectivity, social justice.
in negative ways.

theoretical problem;
if we have economic ties with xyz country and one or more of our leaders ,
{or lobbyists} have an economic interest, in companies in xyz company
{ or past relationship} or { future relationship}

does this influence our diplomatic relations???
are there solutions in the postulate?

so, we have these really cool laws here. form a blind trust.
appoint wife ceo, and/ or retarded relations, heads of charities, huge managment fees etc...




is irans existential threat > or < israels esoteric threat ? { opinion article only.}

  
  12 Nov 2009, 4:12 AM
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respectfully sis, we have a broad range of free speech,{U.S.A.} guaranteed by our constitution.
you dont have to "suck up." i doubt they will deport you. peace. free palestine.

  
  12 Nov 2009, 6:34 PM
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Re: i am israel short political documentary

I am not a woman.


Yeah, we do have free speech. I know that, but I am not sucking up like you said. I am being honest. What things do you think they sounded like I am sucking up?

It's true. America does good things and bad things. I am not going to share personal stuff why it does good things, but for the bad things, it's a whole a lot.
 But for israel, what good things does it offer? Nothing. Probably for its pure israeli citizens (not half  "israelis"). I have a lot of Arab Israeli friends in Occupied land and they tell me how life really is. Therfore, all the israeli actions towards the Palestinians are oppressive.
And I can't get deported anyways because I am an American citizen.



 


  
  12 Nov 2009, 7:07 PM
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sorry. my bad. your "pen" name is interesting. yes. nothing personal.


specifically never compare america to israel . along those lines. perhaps, we both might
conclude ; each country is capable of doing more good, but might not recognize the opportunity.


an arab / israel friend once taught me " believe what you see, not what you hear "
look harder, israel does good things. i am sure israel will do some more good things soon.

  
  16 Nov 2009, 4:45 PM
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Sure, each country is capable of doing more "good", but might not recognize the opportunity.

But we do recognize that opportunity of each country, and it's obvious that israel doesn't do any good things...except if you think killing more than 1000 people in not even a month is a good thing.
" believe what you see, not what you hear " that quote is true, but it does not belong to this subject because we are not believing what we hear, we believe what we see and you know that. All those protesters that spoke out against israel around the whole world, are protesting because they saw the real terrorism that israel is committing towards the Palestinians not because they just heard about it. Thank God, there's media.

I looked harder, but israel does not, unless if it does for its citizens only. And we are talking about other people here not only israelis.

Hopefully israel will "start" doing good things. If a country does not even know what humanity and justice are, it's pretty difficult for her to start being fair and just and of course start doing good stuff.

Israel is doing more bad, but might not recognize the opportunity.



  
  18 Nov 2009, 8:08 AM
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Re: i am israel short political documentary
technological achievements, economic alliance, military. i would be for funding pal. projects/state.


if moderate elements prevail. and they declare state hood. i did not know they needed to ask
everyones permission. there were consistent, {pattern} of denunciation, w/ several news sources
coverage narrow, and micro. several skewering soundbites. i actually had to read the annoyingly
long articles to find some semblance of truth. { i became nauseated and had to have a snack.}


israel countering w/ threat to keep and expand illegal settlements. why does this not surprise me?
how predictable. {in response to, regional leaders floating the idea of decl. pal. statehood.}


do more people profit, from mans misery, more
than mans peace?


67 nonwithstanding,


as ive heard; modify the swiss cheese configuration. wouldnt that simplify the negotiations,
travel, and security?

i know its not original. gaza a misnomer in modern times as a military asset. but, historical-
economic significance to pal is great? was it the japanese; or emirates, that in need of land mass,
built an huge island city? {connected too and would dwarf gaza}

the separation of political elements among pal people divides the causes they originally
fought for. they too will reach a point of non return. { gestalt.}


those of you who bring / {have daggers}; sit on your hands, you can not draw a dagger now!

  
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